News from the bad boys / ex monks

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Saturday, December 30, 2006

In 43 BC Cicero identified the 6 greatest threats to mankind:
1. The delusion that individual advancement is made by crushing others.
2. The tendency to worry about things that cannot be changed or corrected.
3. Insisting that a thing is impossible because we ourselves cannot accomplish it.
4. Refusing to set aside trivial differences.
5. Neglecting development and refinement of the mind, and not acquiring habits of reading and studying.
6. Attempting to compel other people to believe as we do.

I finally got a call from Boun Savat last night. He was in Nong Khai picking up a tourist for a tour in Laos.  He is still working as a tour guide based in Luang Prabang and has moved out of his brother's home.  He sounded pretty unhappy when he was in his brother's home, and last night sounded a lot happier.  Also sounds like he has lots of work at the moment due to it being high season.  So all good there.

About Boun Thavee.  He had stayed in Chiang Mai for a while and had a job last we heard, but Boun Savat said he has now moved to Laos with his girlfriend and has gotten or is trying to get her Laos citizenship.  She is from the Thai Yai ethnic group, from the Shan state in Burma.  The Thai Yai are one of the many ethnic groups that make up the Thai people, however as you know the situation in Burma is quite poor and the Shan area has been fighting for a long time to gain some independence.  Boun Thavee's girlfriend was basically a refugee in Thailand and didn't have Thai citizenship or the benefits that go with it.  So hopefully she will be OK in Laos.  Boun Savat said that Boun Thavee is in love with her, thinks she is beautiful and wants to marry her.

That is it for now.  I hope to hear more from Boun Savat next time he is near the Thai border.  He sounded much happier this time than in recent times.
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liane0 on

Questions about Boun Thavee's Girlfriend
Hi, I was just wondering if Boun Thavee's girlfriend had a burmese passport. My boyfriend is also Thai Yai and from the Shan State in Burma, and has been living in Thailand for the past 12 years. But he does not have a passport, and now we are wondering how he can get one. Any information would be of great help.

paul on

Answer about Boun Thavee
Hmmm, good question - I don't know if Boun Thavee's girlfriend had a Burmese passport. I suspect not. If you boyfriend has been in Thailand for 12 years and has been a good citizen and working etc, i think there is a way he can get some paperwork to stay in Thailand or even be recognized as Thai. But I am not sure how it all works. I haven't heard from Boun Thavee for a while. I suspect now he is living in a small Laotian village somewhere, farming and intending to have kids and having a quiet life. If I can get your email or something somehow, I will pass on Boun Thavee's but I don't want to post it on the web.
Another idea: where are you?
Maybe look up Somewhere there you'll find a email for Jo I think. Anyway ring up or email to Mirror Foundation and ask them. They run a project to help hill tribe people get Thai citizenship and so may know more about the law and how it relates to Shan.
If all this doesn't help (or if it does also) contact me again and I will think up some other solutions

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