Playing a game & the rules keep changing on me...

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Tuesday, August 25, 2009

Have you ever played a game that your opponent kept changing the rules??

I never had before...but it sucks. It sucks harder than a turbocharged Dyson.  BUT, I do get to chalk it up on the list of life experiences.  And I got to write a fairly detailed company email to advise future employees of what they'll need to do to make it easier for themselves (you can read the majority of it below this post if you're interested on getting Brazilian Business or Work Visas).  Which always makes me feel better.

Anyways, I'm bettin' you're curious as to what happened today.  Well yesterday, the consulate was closed so that they could update their computer system.  What they didn't tell any of us was that because they've updating the computer system, all the requirements have now changed.

I was in line at the consulate at 8:55am.  The consulate is supposed to open at 10am to non-Brazilians.  Well, at 9:45, they come out and tell us that our applications that we brought are not going to be valid anymore.  The application has to be filled out online and a receipt for the application has to be filled out.  Oh and the sheet of paper with the new requirements said that for the new business visa I needed a signed letter on company letterhead.  So I spent the next hour and a half filling out the form online, printing it, getting a money order (for the amount the sheet of paper told me), and getting the company to fax me a letter at the local Kinko's (which took way longer than it should have).  I made it back into line after 11:30am.  With just 5minutes to spare, I got to see the consul workers to submit my stuff.  Now since I was after a work visa instead of a business visa, the requirements were a little different than what the sheet told me. 

So I didn't even need the letter from my company.  And my fee was $40 more than my money order was for.  Luckily they took the extra in cash.  Oh and I couldn't pick up the visa same day.  They had tried to tell me it would be 3 days, but I told her how urgent it was I get back to Glens Falls so she told me to come back tomorrow afternoon.

That means tomorrow I've gotta pick up my passport and visa after 2pm, then make a 3:15pm train at Penn Station to get back home...

What can I say, chalk it up to another good story to tell down the road.

Oh, and if anyone is reading this and isn't getting the notification emails and wants to, hit the send email button and I can add you to the list.

And for the email:
The Brazilian Consulate has gone to a new computer system and their requirements have changed (found this out the hard way today).  At the moment, the consulate in NY is the only one to have switched to this new system and has these new requirements.  The other consulates in the US will be switching over in ~20 days.

And here are some tips for if someone goes to the NY consulate to get their visa:

-          The consulate opens to foreigners at 10am to drop off documents for visas.  You are not allowed to go upstairs to get in line outside until a little before 9am.  Be there at 8:50am to get in line though because it fills up quickly.

-          If you are waiting in line for a long time and it's not moving quickly, walk up to the glass doors and show the "gatekeeper" your receipt from the application, I did that today and got to cut in front of 20 people.

-          You can NOT get the visa the same day I was told.  The earliest you can get it back is the next afternoon.  If you get it in enough time, there is a train back up to Saratoga that leaves Penn Station at 3:15pm (trying this tomorrow).  Penn Station is a 4min taxi ride from the Consulate.

-          Suggest to take the evening train from Saratoga (or whichever station is close to you) to Penn Station the night before.  Then can take the afternoon train back North the day after you submit your passport.  I stayed at the Hampton Inn - Madison Square Garden.  Very close to Penn Station and a short taxi ride to the embassy (or a 15min walk).

-          The consulate opens at 2pm for pick up of documents.  I haven’t done this part yet because I need to pick up my passport and visa tomorrow now.  But I’m going to be getting in line at 12:30.

-          I needed to ask for “Vivian” when I get to the window to take care of the work visa.  The other office workers could not do it.

-          There is a FedEx/Kinko’s right across 47th St that has internet access hooked up to printers, can take passport photos, and can receive faxes if you forget anything.

-          There is a post office for money orders at 610 5th Ave between 49th and 50th St.  You have to go inside the building, go downstairs and to the right.  There are no signs for Post Office from the street.

-          Residents of NY, NJ, CT, DE, or PA MUST obtain the visa at the Consulate in NY.

New Requirements:

Business Visa

-          Passport or USA “Permit to Reenter” valid for a minimum of six months from the date of intended arrival in Brazil

-          One visa application form filled out online at https://scedv.serpro.gov.br.  Print out the receipt (only the receipt with the bar codes) at the end of the application, sign it and bring it with you.  Select business as purpose of the trip.

-          One passport photo (can already be affixed to the receipt printed out in the previous step)

-          Round-trip ticket to Brazil with flight numbers and dates, or itinerary.

-          Proof of residency (driver’s license, utility bill, etc).  It’s probably a good idea to have a copy of DL

-          Letter on company letterhead (with address that matches business address in the application).  Must be signed by company representative, stating specific nature of business in Brazil, itinerary within Brazil, business contacts, date of arrival and departure from Brazil.  The letter should also say in some way or the other, “The company assumes all financial and moral responsibility while the applicant is in Brazil.

-          Fee of $190 USD by US Post Office Money order

Work Visa

-          Passport or USA “Permit to Reenter” valid for a minimum of six months from the date of intended arrival in Brazil

-          One visa application form filled out online at https://scedv.serpro.gov.br.  Print out the receipt (only the receipt with the bar codes) at the end of the application, sign it and bring it with you.  Select work as purpose of the trip.

-          One passport photo (can already be affixed to the receipt printed out in the previous step)

-          Round-trip ticket to Brazil with flight numbers and dates, or itinerary

-          Police Report (signed and notorized)

-          FBI Clearance Check.  I’m not sure on this one.  She only asked me for the Police Report but I handed her my Clearance check and she didn’t return it to me.  So it is a good idea to have it with you.

-          Have completed and received the work visa approval (Durand application, medical and experience statements, legalized passport copy)

-          Fee of $230 USD by US Post Office Money Order (though I did pay for part of it with cash)


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mmbcross
mmbcross on

Brazilian visas
What a odyssey! On the other hand, you probably already know what Brazilians have to go through to get a US visa.

big_red_truck
big_red_truck on

Yes I do....and it's a lot
I'm pretty sure we keep the info on our consulate web page updated though.

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